well i have to say, this road was just as challenging as the road to angel's camp. my gravel guard was permanently destroyed and i took my car with the assurance that the road was perfectly acceptable... this really sucked and i know others had probs as well. not to get all negative, but bad job on this aspect... and since there were folks out there before the party started, it would have been nice to get a warning about this, along with the bug spray warning. just something to consider for next time.